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		<title>Scamming No Limit Texas Holdem &#124; Grosvenor Casino</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been to quite a few Casino resorts; Macau and Mocbai. Between them i&#8217;ve visited half a dozen casinos. Yesterday I actually played in one. Chris Leslie Evernden aka &#8220;Concept&#8221; the rapper, had a clever little scheme that was sure to make money. Off we went; Rachel, Chris, Graham and I in his mini. We [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been to quite a few Casino resorts; Macau and Mocbai. Between them i&#8217;ve visited half a dozen casinos.</p>
<p>Yesterday I actually played in one. Chris Leslie Evernden aka &#8220;Concept&#8221; the rapper, had a clever little scheme that was sure to make money. Off we went; Rachel, Chris, Graham and I in his mini. We put some gangsta rap on and went posing down to Edgeware Road.</p>
<p>The scam was this; 4 people play on the same table. We all play like tight assholes, only playing pairs and premium hands. It&#8217;s not really a scam &#8211; just tedious. It&#8217;s all legit, but the fact that you can make money is dubious to say the least.</p>
<p>We went to the <a href="http://www.grosvenorcasinos.com/">Grosvenor Casino</a> on Edgeware Rd. It&#8217;s one of the safest places to stay if an all out terrorist attack happened to hit London. Registering was easy enough and off we went.</p>
<p>Each of us converted £25 into chips and sat down at the table. We got down to business.</p>
<p>In three hours of play, we played a dozen hands. Fucking boring.</p>
<p>I hit with a pair of kings in my pocket and the flop went down. Two aggressive players played it out and forced me to go all in. I won the hand doubling my chips to £53. Next was Graham. He got queens in his pocket. Everyone folded before he could eek any money out. He then played a little loose and got to about £40 in chips. Rachel was the luckiest. She hit pocket tens. The flop came down. She&#8217;d made three of a kind 10s. Everyone on the table went in except Chris, Graham and I. The pot got to about £90 and she cleaned up.</p>
<p>About 2 hours into the game it was like this;</p>
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<li>Rachel &#8211; £90</li>
<li>Me &#8211; £50</li>
<li>Graham &#8211; £40</li>
<li>Chris &#8211; £15</li>
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<p>Not bad. This could work.</p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s the bad point. The casino makes its money on a rake per half hour. Every half hour we each had to pay £3. In total we stayed for 3 hours, so the total the Casino raped off us was £72.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of money considering we only bought in £100 in total.</p>
<p>As the night wore on, the rakes and blinds killed us. By the last hour, I was down to £20. Chris was down to £5 and Graham was down to £20. Rachel luckily cashed out.</p>
<p>I decided I couldn&#8217;t play like this. It was 1.30am and I thought fuck it. I went all in. Chris went all in. An even tighter arsed player, hit pocket aces. I couldn&#8217;t have given a shit.</p>
<p>We ended the night with:</p>
<ul>
<li>Graham &#8211; £10</li>
<li>Me &#8211; £0</li>
<li>Rachel &#8211; £80</li>
<li>Chris &#8211; £0</li>
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<p>We lost £10 between us for 3 hours work. If i&#8217;d have had more discipline, we&#8217;d have been £10 up.</p>
<p><strong>Moral of the story:</strong></p>
<p>I have no doubt that if the play was more refined, we&#8217;d have been able to double our money. Is it really worth it though? To play poker so tight that it doesn&#8217;t become fun. If we&#8217;d all have stuck to a dead end job for 3 hours, we&#8217;d have made £60 guaranteed, rather than some pot luck dream.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go to the Casino again, but with the intention of having fun.</p>


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